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The 27th Annual West Hill Shop Cyclocross Race • Nov 5 2017 • Putney, VT

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Series: Zank SS 2017

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Mostly Cloudy, 49 degrees, wind 1 mph

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Cat 4/5 Men

By Age: All | U20 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50-59 | 60+ | Custom

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Points breakdown
Trey Jones	447.75	Quality:	373.04
Guthrie Andres	403.15	Median:	540
Stephen Kohr	438.74	Last:	706.96
Nicholas Brocato	450.77	Drop per place:	7.26
Messen Timothy	430.13
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Trey	Jones	BMB RACING	0:38:34.55	Cat 4-1st 448	373
2	2	Guthrie	Andres	HUP UNITED	0:38:59.97	Cat 4-2nd 403	380
3	3	Stephen	Kohr	COWBELL RACING P/B WORLD BICYCLE RE	0:39:03.34	Cat 4-3rd 439	388
4	4	Nicholas	Brocato	WPI	0:39:30.02	Cat 4-4th 451	395
5	5	Messen	Timothy	DARTMOUTH COLLEGE	0:39:38.04	Cat 5-1st 430	402
6	6	Arturo	Johnson	KMS CYCLING-KILLINGTON MOUNTAIN SCH	0:39:55.20	Cat 5-2nd 468	409
7	7	Riley	Joinnides	EAST END	0:40:11.68	Cat 4-5th 401	417
8	8	Conrad	Dorn	RPI	0:40:57.93	Cat 5-3rd 472	424
9	9	Samuel	Mcmillan	ST. LAWRENCE UNIVERSITY	0:41:00.15	Cat 5-4th 474	431
10	10	Neal	Bachmann	UMASS BIKE RACING CLUB	0:41:22.74	Cat 5-5th 475	438
11	11	Kieran	Ahern	DARTMOUTH COLLEGE	0:41:25.00	Cat ?-1st 541	446
12	12	Jesse	Gubb	HARVARD UNIVERSITY	0:41:26.66	Cat 4-6th 505	453
13	13	Eli	Markworth	UVM CYCLING	0:41:26.99	Cat 5-6th 541	460
14	14	Xavier	Koontz miller	UVM CYCLING	0:41:29.98	Cat 4-7th 485	467
15	15	Benito	Cecenas	UVM CYCLING	0:41:33.02	Cat 4-8th 486	475
16	16	Tobias	Ehrenberger	MIT CYCLING P/B THOUGHTFORMS	0:42:15.17	Cat 4-9th 459	482
17	17	Aaron	Stone	ACIDOTIC RACING	0:42:34.40	Cat ?-2nd 549	489
18	18	Gabriel	Ytterberg		0:42:38.53	Cat 4-10th 540	496
19	19	Jake	Grover	WEST HILL SHOP	0:42:40.35	Cat ?-3rd 532	504
20	20	Andrew	Weaver	Keep It Tight	0:42:45.42	Cat 4-11th 557	511
21	21	Alexander	Wurts	WORCESTER POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE	0:43:15.07	Cat 5-7th 464	518
22	22	Brian	Seitz		0:43:25.53	Cat 5-8th 523	525
23	23	Gregory	Affsa		0:43:35.45	Cat 4-12th 554	533
24	24	Graesyn	Scruton	VERMONT ACADEMY	0:43:37.88	Cat 4-13th 459	540
25	25	Brandon	Russell	Harvard University	0:43:53.37	Cat 4-14th 587	547
26	26	Michael	Kester	HARVARD UNIVERSITY	0:44:14.57	Cat 5-9th 581	555
27	27	Riley	Frakelton	UMASS BIKE RACING CLUB	0:44:43.76	Cat 5-10th 558	562
28	28	Patrick	Cafferky	BELGEN CYCLES	0:45:00.02	Cat 3-1st 571	569
29	29	James	Schlmeisler		0:45:23.18	Cat ?-4th 540	576
30	30	Trevor	Teachout	Colonial Bicycle Company	0:45:45.18	Cat 5-11th 567	584
31	31	Christopher	Mcintosh	THIRSTY BOIS	0:45:53.65	Cat 4-15th 606	591
32	32	Kyle	Herschberger	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:46:23.97	Cat 5-12th 570	598
33	33	Steve	Lee	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:46:27.93	Cat 5-13th 594	605
34	34	Peter	Mead	COLONIAL BICYCLE COMPANY	0:46:37.73	Cat 4-16th 619	613
35	35	Ian	Coveny		0:46:45.00	Cat 5-14th 631	620
36	36	Guthrie	Cannon-macmartin	BERLINER RADFAHRER CLUB ZUGVOGEL 19	0:46:46.38	Cat 5-15th 647	627
37	37	Ryan	L'italien	The Velo Resource	0:46:54.97	Cat 5-16th 540	634
38	38	David	Ames		0:46:56.92	Cat 5-17th 604	642
39	39	Evan	Twarog	US MILITARY CYCLING TEAM	0:46:59.44	Cat 5-18th 465	649
40	40	Tim	Tucker	GUS CX	0:47:42.45	Cat 5-19th 627	656
41	41	Ella	Dishong		0:47:47.81	Cat 4-17th 540	663
42	42	Michael	Della donna		0:47:50.52	Cat ?-5th 657	671
43	43	Nathaniel	Cassidy	UVM CYCLING	-1 LAP	Cat 4-18th 597	678
44	44	Alan	Fossa		-1 LAP	Cat ?-6th 540	685
45	45	Wesley	Bayles	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	-1 LAP	Cat 5-20th 650	692
46	46	James	Schure	RPI CYCLING	-1 LAP	Cat 5-21st 690	700
47	47	Matt	Stordy	UMASS BIKE RACING CLUB	-1 LAP	Cat 5-22nd 540	707

Finishers: Cat 3: 1 Cat 4: 18 Cat 5: 22 Cat ?: 6

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Cub Jr. 9-14

VT State Champs 13-14 Boys

1	Trey Jones		22:51.6
2	Beau Guenther	WEST HILL	26:38.8
3	Jacob Morris	NEXT-BMB	27:56.4

VT State Champs 9-12 Boys

Owen Jones

BMB RACING

25:23.8

VT State Champs 9-12 Girls

Sadie Bell

THUNDERBOLTS

30:18.0

VT State Champs 13-14 Girls

1	Liza Bell	PUTNEY THUNDERBOLTS	24:53.2
2	Greta Kilburn	LITTLE BELLAS	26:12.4

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Points breakdown
Trey Jones	447.75	Quality:	456.39
David Northcott	564.76	Median:	608.26
Liza Bell	556.02	Last:	760.14
Owen Jones	530.7	Drop per place:	16.88
Greta Kilburn	524.06
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Trey	Jones		0:22:51.59	Cat 4-1st 448	448
2	2	David	Northcott	PUTNEY THUNDERBOLTS	0:24:48.31	Cat 5-1st 565	472
3	3	Liza	Bell	PUTNEY THUNDERBOLTS	0:24:53.22	Cat 3-1st 556	487
4	4	Owen	Jones	BMB RACING	0:25:23.82	Cat 5-2nd 531	502
5	5	Greta	Kilburn	LITTLE BELLAS	0:26:12.35	Cat 4-2nd 524	517
6	6	Nathaniel	Gervez	RHINO BIKE WORKS	0:26:12.04	Cat 5-3rd 544	533
7	7	Zazo	French		0:26:18.07	Cat 5-4th 738	548
8	8	Beau	Guenther	WEST HILL	0:26:38.81	Cat 5-5th 540	563
9	9	Jacob	Morris	NEXT-BMB	0:27:56.39	Cat 5-6th 568	579
10	10	Molly	Dishong	GUIPAGO CUSTOM CYCLES	0:28:23.68	Cat 4-3rd 579	594
11	11	Alexis	Hills	MONADNOCK CYCLING CLUB	0:28:45.55	Cat 4-4th 628	609
12	12	Finn	Payne	NYCROSS	0:28:48.04	Cat 5-7th 621	624
13	13	Sadie	Bell	THUNDERBOLTS	0:30:18.02	Cat 5-8th 737	640
14	14	Jessica	Beck	NORTHAMPTON BICYCLE RACING / JAM FU	0:30:48.15	Cat 5-9th 608	655
15	15	Angelo	Carbone Goodwin	PUTNEY WEST HILL CYCLES	0:31:20.18	Cat 5-10th 640	670
16	16	Sophie	Parrott	NCC/JAM FUND	0:34:35.59	Cat 5-11th 780	685
17	17	Matthew	Northcott	PUTNEY THUNDERBOLTS	-1 lap	Cat 5-12th 720	701
18	18	Matthew	Berlinger	PUTNEY WEST HILL	-1 lap	Cat 5-13th 810	716

Finishers: Cat 3: 1 Cat 4: 4 Cat 5: 13

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Jr. Men 15-18 Cat. 1-3

VT State Champs 15-18 Boys

1	Austin Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	40:28.1
2	Carson Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	41:03.2

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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Matthew	Johnson	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:39:07.02	Cat 3-1st -	-
2	2	Henry	Lord	AP JUNIOR DEVELOPMENT	0:39:14.48	Cat 5-1st -	-
3	3	Austin	Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	0:40:28.15	Cat 4-1st -	-
4	4	Carson	Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	0:41:03.18	Cat 3-2nd -	-

Finishers: Cat 3: 2 Cat 4: 1 Cat 5: 1

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Jr. Men 15-18 Cat. 4/5

VT State Champs 15-18 Boys

1	Austin Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	40:28.1
2	Carson Beard	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	41:03.2

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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Jonathan	Hills	MONADNOCK CYCLING CLUB	0:32:13.55	Cat 4-1st -	-
2	2	Noah	Payne	NYCROSS	0:33:13.45	Cat 5-1st -	-
3	3	Luc	Lafond	STATE 9 RACING P/B VITTORIA	0:34:38.32	Cat 4-2nd -	-
4	4	Noah	Chabot		0:34:38.68	Cat 4-3rd -	-

Finishers: Cat 4: 3 Cat 5: 1

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Master Men 35-44 Cat. 1-3

VT State Champs 40-44

Kip Roberts

ONION RIVER SPORTS

37:44.5

VT State Champs 45-49

1	Jeff Seaton	HELLGATE CYCLERY - KENT BROTHERS AUTO	38:20.7
2	Eric Darling	0	39:01.1

VT State Champs 50-54

1	David Connery	BMB RACING	37:00.8
2	John Buser	PUTNEY / WESTHILL	40:54.7

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Points breakdown
Shawn Marshall	275.92	Quality:	243.81
Garth Schwellenbach	274.33	Median:	330.71
Mark Buffone	350.92	Last:	417.62
Kip Roberts	287.68	Drop per place:	12.42
Ryan Larocque	296.9
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Shawn	Marshall	VELOLABRT	0:36:58.81	Cat ?-1st 276	244
2	2	Garth	Schwellenbach	LAUGHING DOG BICYCLES	0:37:01.75	Cat 3-1st 274	256
3	3	Mark	Buffone	0	0:37:04.18	Cat 3-2nd 351	269
4	4	Kip	Roberts	ONION RIVER SPORTS	0:37:44.53	Cat 2-1st 288	281
5	5	Ryan	Larocque		0:37:54.95	Cat 2-2nd 297	293
6	6	Ian	Odell	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:37:55.29	Cat 3-3rd 315	306
7	7	Patrick d.	Rondeau	NORTHAMPTON CYCLING CLUB (NCC)	0:38:05.32	Cat 3-4th 331	318
8	8	Daniel	Coady	BIKEREG.COM CYCLING CLUB	0:38:12.02	Cat 1-1st 326	331
9	9	Noah	Elbers	WEST HILL SHOP	0:38:12.55	Cat 3-5th 420	343
10	10	Matt	Zarotny	JOE'S GARAGE	0:40:01.88	Cat 3-6th 407	356
11	11	Robert	Hale	HUP UNITED	0:41:17.03	Cat 3-7th 404	368
12	12	Alexander	Grabau	BOSTON RACING INDEPENDENT	0:41:26.23	Cat 2-3rd 361	380
13	13	Justin	Cox	HUP UNITED	0:42:37.62	Cat ?-2nd 330	393
14	14	Michael	Sabatini	Keep It Tight	0:42:50.77	Cat 2-4th 422	405
15	15	Grant	Halsey	TEAM MONSTER TRUCK	0:43:37.88	Cat 3-8th 450	418

Finishers: Cat 1: 1 Cat 2: 4 Cat 3: 8 Cat ?: 2

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Master Men 35-44 Cat. 4/5

VT State Champs 40-44

Kip Roberts

ONION RIVER SPORTS

37:44.5

VT State Champs 45-49

1	Jeff Seaton	HELLGATE CYCLERY - KENT BROTHERS AUTO	38:20.7
2	Eric Darling	0	39:01.1

VT State Champs 50-54

1	David Connery	BMB RACING	37:00.8
2	John Buser	PUTNEY / WESTHILL	40:54.7

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Points breakdown
	488.22	Quality:	400.13
Colin Cook	499.03	Median:	499.03
Adam Gould	424.98	Last:	597.93
Jonathan Meuse	540	Drop per place:	12.36
Aaron Keene	408.2
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1				TIME	Cat 2-1st 488	400
1	1	Colin	Cook	THE VELO RESOURCE	0:30:57.32	Cat 4-1st 499	412
2	2	Adam	Gould	BMB RACING	0:31:12.20	Cat 4-2nd 425	424
3	3	Jonathan	Meuse	DG CYCLES SPORTS	0:31:24.48	Cat 5-1st 540	435
4	4	Aaron	Keene	NORTHAMPTON CYCLING CLUB	0:31:49.70	Cat 4-3rd 408	447
5	5	Nate	Katz	COLONIAL BICYCLE COMPANY	0:32:28.42	Cat 4-4th 435	459
6	6	Jonathan	Falcetti	COMPETITIVE EDGE SKI & BIKE	0:32:36.28	Cat 4-5th 433	470
7	7	Matthew	Lavigne	MONADNOCK CYCLING CLUB	0:32:52.45	Cat 5-2nd 446	482
8	8	Nathan	Wong	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:33:01.02	Cat 4-6th 484	494
9	9	John	Berlinger	PUTNEY/ WEST HILL	0:34:08.70	Cat ?-1st 482	505
10	10	Kevin	Delaney	SOFA KING SLOW	0:34:27.88	Cat 4-7th 513	517
11	11	Thomas	Knox		0:35:29.82	Cat 5-3rd 567	529
12	12	Stephen	Flynn	GUIPAGO CUSTOM CYCLES	0:37:05.18	Cat 4-8th 622	540
13	13	Joshua	Calvi		0:38:08.08	Cat 5-4th 610	552
14	14	Leonardo	Angiulo	FRITZ'S BIKE SHOP	0:40:10.36	Cat 5-5th 668	564
15	15	Ryan	Belanger	INFINITY	0:40:50.18	Cat ?-2nd 540	575

Finishers: Cat 2: 1 Cat 4: 8 Cat 5: 5 Cat ?: 2

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Master Men 45+ Cat. 1-3

VT State Champs 45-49

1	Jeff Seaton	HELLGATE CYCLERY - KENT BROTHERS AUTO	38:20.7
2	Eric Darling	0	39:01.1

VT State Champs 50-54

1	David Connery	BMB RACING	37:00.8
2	John Buser	PUTNEY / WESTHILL	40:54.7

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Points breakdown
David Connery	270.2	Quality:	250.22
Aaron Millett	298.4	Median:	388.54
Jeff Seaton	320.53	Last:	526.86
Patrick Ruane	303.08	Drop per place:	17.29
Brian Anderson	281.65
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	David	Connery	BMB RACING	0:37:00.82	Cat 2-1st 270	250
2	2	Aaron	Millett	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:38:10.88	Cat 3-1st 298	270
3	3	Jeff	Seaton	HELLGATE CYCLERY - KENT BROTHERS AU	0:38:20.71	Cat 2-2nd 321	290
4	4	Patrick	Ruane	SUNAPEE/CONTINENTAL PAVING/BUCHIKAS	0:38:21.09	Cat 3-2nd 303	309
5	5	Brian	Anderson	MINUTEMAN ROAD CLUB	0:38:27.25	Cat 3-3rd 282	329
6	6	Erik	Nedeau	TEAM ERRACE P/B DSO MANUFACTURING	0:38:45.62	Cat 3-4th 395	349
7	7	John	Burkhardt	HUP UNITED	0:38:53.05	Cat 3-5th 355	369
8	8	Eric	Darling	0	0:39:01.14	Cat 3-6th 389	389
9	9	Herb	Grignon	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:39:37.25	Cat 3-7th 423	408
10	10	C Todd	Lombardo	HUP / ECV / CompRacing	0:39:58.00	Cat 3-8th -	-
11	11	Carl	Ring	PEMI-BAKER CYCLING / RHINO BIKEWORK	0:40:36.80	Cat 3-9th 416	428
12	12	John	Buser	PUTNEY / WESTHILL	0:40:54.67	Cat 3-10th 441	448
13	13	Steve	Witkus	JRA CYCLES	0:40:56.59	Cat 3-11th 350	468
14	14	Paul	Weiss	PORTLAND VELO CLUB/CYCLEMANIA	0:41:03.75	Cat 3-12th 446	487
15	15	Colin	Johannen	BIKEMAN.COM	0:42:26.30	Cat 3-13th 454	507
16	16	David	Carmona	HAMMER NUTRITION	0:43:18.02	Cat 3-14th 459	527

Finishers: Cat 2: 2 Cat 3: 14

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Master Men 45+ Cat. 4/5

VT State Champs 45-49

1	Jeff Seaton	HELLGATE CYCLERY - KENT BROTHERS AUTO	38:20.7
2	Eric Darling	0	39:01.1

VT State Champs 50-54

1	David Connery	BMB RACING	37:00.8
2	John Buser	PUTNEY / WESTHILL	40:54.7

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Points breakdown
Eric Morris	398.3	Quality:	347.69
Sean Mcloughlin	400.19	Median:	523.59
Richard Smith	437.14	Last:	699.49
Erik Wells	411.52	Drop per place:	9.26
Christopher Owen	415.41
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Eric	Morris	BMB RACING	0:31:02.67	Cat 4-1st 398	348
2	2	Sean	Mcloughlin		0:31:55.53	Cat 5-1st 400	357
3	3	Richard	Smith	SYMSCAPE	0:32:01.92	Cat 4-2nd 437	366
4	4	Erik	Wells	BIKEBARNRACING.COM	0:32:17.02	Cat 4-3rd 412	375
5	5	Christopher	Owen		0:32:17.48	Cat 4-4th 415	385
6	6	Tim	Wern	STAGE 1/AIRLINE CYCLES	0:32:23.81	Cat 4-5th 425	394
7	7	David	Burnham		0:32:31.96	Cat ?-1st 540	403
8	8	David	Stearns	Fritz's Bicycle Shop	0:32:43.28	Cat 4-6th 413	412
9	9	Hanjiro	Kawai	BCA LINEN	0:32:56.78	Cat 4-7th 441	422
10	10	Andrew	Cooper	CISCO WFH	0:33:09.15	Cat 4-8th 494	431
11	11	Eric	Lovering	CHAINLINE CYCLES	0:33:09.55	Cat 4-9th 422	440
12	12	Tom	Fagan	ATA CYCLE	0:33:10.39	Cat 4-10th 493	450
13	13	Timothy	Fleming	WEST HILL SHOP	0:33:10.92	Cat 4-11th 540	459
14	14	Ian	Stratton	MINUTEMAN ROAD CLUB	0:33:19.81	Cat 5-2nd 484	468
15	15	Donald	Kirouac	Minuteman Road Club	0:33:35.01	Cat 5-3rd 447	477
16	16	Henry	Van den broek	KEEP IT TIGHT	0:33:40.08	Cat 4-12th 433	487
17	17	Dunbar	Oehmig		0:34:07.91	Cat 4-13th 422	496
18	18	Chris J.	Dunn	COLONIAL BICYCLE COMPANY	0:34:31.47	Cat 4-14th 524	505
19	19	John	Schwarz	UNATTACHED	0:34:31.80	Cat 4-15th 508	514
20	20	Jack	Bailey	KMS CYCLING	0:34:39.18	Cat 5-4th 535	524
21	21	Chad	Morris	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:34:49.74	Cat 4-16th 507	533
22	22	Matthew	Lord	JEWETT FARMS CYCLING	0:34:57.19	Cat 4-17th 547	542
23	23	Michael	Gianferrari	MONADNOCK CYCLING CLUB	0:35:33.06	Cat ?-2nd 579	551
24	24	Mark	Sondeen	EXPO WHEELMEN	0:35:38.73	Cat 4-18th 653	561
25	25	David	Lafond	GUS CX	0:35:40.22	Cat 4-19th 516	570
26	26	Chris	Demars	TEAM 43	0:35:40.85	Cat 5-5th 576	579
27	27	Marty	Tribandis	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:35:51.13	Cat 4-20th 553	588
28	28	Seward	Ogden		0:35:51.77	Cat ?-3rd 540	598
29	29	David	Lystila	OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE	0:36:09.82	Cat 4-21st 521	607
30	30	Todd	Chewning	COWBELL RACING P/B WORLD BICYCLE RE	0:36:28.08	Cat 4-22nd 602	616
31	31	Michael	Tobin	COMPREHENSIVE RACING	0:36:32.75	Cat 4-23rd 540	625
32	32	Eli	Levine	JRA CYCLES	0:36:53.42	Cat 4-24th 584	635
33	33	Stephen	Lederer	COMPETITIVE EDGE	0:36:57.92	Cat 5-6th 656	644
34	34	Simon	Nott	GUS CX	0:37:07.93	Cat 4-25th 611	653
35	35	Bill	Millett	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:37:09.28	Cat 4-26th 587	662
36	36	Richard	Pendleton	STATE 9 RACING P/B VITTORIA	0:37:44.61	Cat ?-4th 605	672
37	37	Mark	Washburn		0:38:08.93	Cat ?-5th 540	681
38	38	Raffaele	Melidone	FRITZ'S BYCICLE	0:38:33.40	Cat 5-7th 663	690
39	39	Robert	Doucette	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	-2 LAPS	Cat 5-8th 630	699

Finishers: Cat 4: 26 Cat 5: 8 Cat ?: 5

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Master Men 55+ Cat. 1-3

VT State Champs 55-59

1	Dunbar Oehmig		41:49.5
2	Greg Gadowski	PUTNEY/WESTHILL	42:59.4
3	John Witmer	GMBC/SYNERGY FITNESS	-1 LAP

VT State Champs 60-64

1	Matt Moore	CCC/KELTIC CONSTRUCTION/ZANE'S CYCLES	41:58.1
2	David White	1K2GO	-1 LAP

VT State Champs 65-69

1	Phil Bannister	PUTNEY/WEST HILL	42:04.6
2	Robert Dillon	BMB RACING	-1 LAP

By Age: All | U20 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50-59 | 60+ | Custom

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Points breakdown
David Corrigan	320.94	Quality:	303.06
Eric Derivera	325.02	Median:	432.83
Steve Arsenault	383.85	Last:	562.6
Eiric Marro	360.77	Drop per place:	12.98
John Adamik	432.83
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	David	Corrigan	PEAK RACING/ VALLEY BIKE & SKI WERK	0:39:05.70	Cat 2-1st 321	303
2	2	Eric	Derivera	PEAK RACING / VALLEY BIKE & SKI WE	0:39:06.13	Cat 3-1st 325	316
3	3	Steve	Arsenault	MONADNOCK CYCLING CLUB	0:39:16.57	Cat 2-2nd 384	329
4	4	Eiric	Marro	SUNAPEE/BUCHIKA?S/CONTINENTAL PAVIN	0:41:03.56	Cat 3-2nd 361	342
5	5	John	Adamik	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:41:11.02	Cat 3-3rd 433	355
6	6	John	Mcgrath	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:41:28.68	Cat 3-4th 423	368
7	7	David	Goodwin	NORTHAMPTON CYCLING CLUB	0:41:34.71	Cat 2-3rd 408	381
8	8	Geoffrey	House		0:41:37.18	Cat 3-5th 357	394
9	9	Derek	Griggs	RECYCLED SPORTS	0:41:42.24	Cat 3-6th 402	407
10	10	Dunbar	Oehmig		0:41:49.45	Cat 4-1st 540	420
11	11	Matt	Moore	CCC/KELTIC CONSTRUCTION/ZANE'S CYCL	0:41:58.13	Cat 3-7th 464	433
12	12	Phil	Bannister	PUTNEY/WEST HILL	0:42:04.57	Cat 3-8th 418	446
13	13	Steve	Mcgrath	LAGUNITAS RACING EXPERIENCE	0:42:20.44	Cat 3-9th 420	459
14	14	Garabed	Minasian	FREEWHEEL CYCLES LLC	0:42:24.85	Cat 3-10th 662	472
15	15	Greg	Gadowski	PUTNEY/WESTHILL	0:42:59.44	Cat 4-2nd 498	485
16	16	Keith	Button	CCB RACING	0:43:43.98	Cat 3-11th 442	498
17	17	Robert	Dillon	BMB RACING	-1 LAP	Cat 3-12th 462	511
18	18	John	Witmer	GMBC/Synergy Fitness	-1 LAP	Cat 3-13th 477	524
19	19	David	White	1K2GO	-1 LAP	Cat 3-14th 488	537
20	20	Craig	Walton	BCA/LINEN	-1 LAP	Cat 3-15th 492	550
21	21	David	Holmander	SWAMI'S CYCLING CLUB	-2 LAP	Cat 3-16th 599	563

Finishers: Cat 2: 3 Cat 3: 16 Cat 4: 2

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Men 3/4

VT State Champs 55-59

1	Dunbar Oehmig		41:49.5
2	Greg Gadowski	PUTNEY/WESTHILL	42:59.4
3	John Witmer	GMBC/SYNERGY FITNESS	-1 LAP

VT State Champs 60-64

1	Matt Moore	CCC/KELTIC CONSTRUCTION/ZANE'S CYCLES	41:58.1
2	David White	1K2GO	-1 LAP

VT State Champs 65-69

1	Phil Bannister	PUTNEY/WEST HILL	42:04.6
2	Robert Dillon	BMB RACING	-1 LAP

By Age: All | U20 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50-59 | 60+ | Custom

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Points breakdown
Cole Ellison	329.51	Quality:	323.75
Tyler Samson	366.55	Median:	405.32
Marcus Peabody	383.49	Last:	486.88
Kenneth Wiley	398.91	Drop per place:	10.2
Timothy Daley	392.62
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Cole	Ellison	MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE	0:40:31.01	Cat 3-1st 330	324
2	2	Tyler	Samson	COMPETITIVE EDGE CYCLING	0:41:26.97	Cat 3-2nd 367	334
3	3	Marcus	Peabody	RHODE ISLAND SCHOOL OF DESIGN	0:41:29.82	Cat 3-3rd 383	344
4	4	Kenneth	Wiley	COLONIAL BIKE COMPANY	0:41:45.95	Cat 4-1st 399	354
5	5	Timothy	Daley	AETNA-EXPO WHEELMEN	0:42:20.41	Cat 4-2nd 393	365
6	6	Ammon	Okazaki	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:42:25.28	Cat 4-3rd 433	375
7	7	Todd	Mangiagli	PUTNEY/WEST HILL	0:42:41.52	Cat 4-4th 405	385
8	8	Matthew	Johnson	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:43:04.42	Cat 3-4th 398	395
9	9	Patrick	Staples	NCC	0:43:45.72	Cat 3-5th 370	405
10	10	Nate	Katz	COLONIAL BICYCLE COMPANY	0:44:24.64	Cat 4-5th 435	416
11	11	Andrew	Mergen	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:44:43.73	Cat ?-1st 400	426
12	12	David	Jaffe	SUNAPEE/CONTINENTAL PAVING/BUCHIKAS	0:45:11.82	Cat 4-6th 494	436
13	13	Chadli	Mascarenhas	LAUGHING DOG BICYCLES	0:45:15.30	Cat 4-7th 559	446
14	14	Dylan	Allen	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:46:34.24	Cat 4-8th 467	456
15	15	Dan	Kurowski	CYCLONAUTS	0:46:53.86	Cat 3-6th 459	466
16	16	Tyler	Parnes	B2C2 / JRA CYCLING	0:49:04.09	Cat 4-9th 513	477
17	17	David	Keppler	BIKEMAN.COM	-1 LAP	Cat 4-10th 576	487

Finishers: Cat 3: 6 Cat 4: 10 Cat ?: 1

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VT State Champs Elite

Tim Russell

THOROUGHBRED TRIATHLON COACHING

-1 LAP

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Jamie Belchak

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00:17.3

VT State Champs U23

1	Andrew Borden	X-MEN	57:22.2
2	Sammy Hedlund	UVM CYCLING	59:46.2
3	Donnie Seib	UVM CYCLING	00:13.6

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Points breakdown
Andrew Borden	261.1	Quality:	219.08
Markus Heuer	224.49	Median:	306.1
Kevin Bouchard-hall	267.46	Last:	393.12
Alec Donahue	244.66	Drop per place:	9.67
Benjamin Powers	271.21
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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Andrew	Borden	X-MEN	0:57:22.18	Cat 1-1st 261	219
2	2	Markus	Heuer	BICYCLE EXPRESS RACING	0:58:25.15	Cat ?-1st 224	229
3	3	Kevin	Bouchard-hall	WRENEGADE SPORTS/TEAM PLACID PLANET	0:58:25.72	Cat 1-2nd 267	238
4	4	Alec	Donahue	JAM / NCC	0:59:04.19	Cat 1-3rd 245	248
5	5	Benjamin	Powers	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:59:09.02	Cat 2-1st 271	258
6	6	Doug	Thorp	Colonial Bicycle Company	0:59:13.69	Cat 2-2nd 323	267
7	7	Finnegan	O'connor	COMPETITIVE EDGE SKI & BIKE	0:59:32.06	Cat 3-1st 324	277
8	8	Sammy	Hedlund	UVM CYCLING	0:59:46.16	Cat 2-3rd 359	287
9	9	Eric	Follen	COLONIAL BICYCLE COMPANY	0:59:56.58	Cat 2-4th 274	296
10	10	Mark	Hewitt	JAM / NCC	0:59:58.74	Cat 3-2nd 306	306
11	11	Donnie	Seib	UVM CYCLING	1:00:13.62	Cat 3-3rd 313	316
12	12	Jamie	Belchak	SQUADRA FLYING TIGERS P/B JAMIS	1:00:17.28	Cat 3-4th 292	325
13	13	Andrew	Nicholas	RPI	1:00:18.12	Cat 3-5th 317	335
14	14	Travis	Wold	WPI	1:01:51.54	Cat 2-5th 281	345
15	15	Dan	Vaillancourt	GORHAM BIKE AND SKI	1:02:47.13	Cat 1-4th 286	354
16	16	Kurt	Belhumeur		1:02:56.62	Cat 2-6th 350	364
17	17	Kenneth	Englert	JAM / NCC	1:04:56.25	Cat 3-6th 355	374
18	18	Christian	Norvold	JAM / NCC	-1 LAP	Cat 2-7th 358	383
19	19	Tim	Russell	THOROUGHBRED TRIATHLON COACHING	-1 LAP	Cat 3-7th 377	393

Finishers: Cat 1: 4 Cat 2: 7 Cat 3: 7 Cat ?: 1

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VT State Champs Elite

Tim Russell

THOROUGHBRED TRIATHLON COACHING

-1 LAP

VT State Champs Masters

Jamie Belchak

SQUADRA FLYING TIGERS P/B JAMIS

00:17.3

VT State Champs U23

1	Andrew Borden	X-MEN	57:22.2
2	Sammy Hedlund	UVM CYCLING	59:46.2
3	Donnie Seib	UVM CYCLING	00:13.6

By Age: All | U20 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50-59 | 60+ | Custom

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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Michael	Wissell	B2C2/JRA	0:38:59.14	Cat 1-1st 267	244
2	2	Fred	Prescott	DR. NAYLOR-TREADWELLTRAINING RACING	0:39:39.23	Cat 2-1st 323	254
3	3	Keith	Beausoleil	CHAINLINE CYCLES	0:39:45.86	Cat 3-1st 277	264
4	4	Bradford	Smith	THE DRIFTERS	0:40:17.98	Cat 2-2nd 283	274
5	5	Connor	Walsh		0:40:49.08	Cat 3-2nd 299	284
6	6	Kevin	Orlowski	CHAINLINE CYCLES	0:41:22.30	Cat 3-3rd 328	295
7	7	Matthew	Myette	MAD ALCHEMY \| ZANCONATO	0:41:39.77	Cat 3-4th 310	305
8	8	Jason	Rabidou	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:41:45.05	Cat 3-5th 331	315
9	9	Scott	Rosenthal	MAD ALCHEMY \| ZANCONATO	0:42:34.92	Cat 3-6th 362	325
10	10	Jesse	Quagliaroli		0:42:43.15	Cat 2-3rd 328	336
11	11	Mike	Zanconato	MAD ALCHEMY \| ZANCONATO	0:42:45.98	Cat 3-7th 403	346
12	12	Kate	Northcott	WEST HILL SHOP	0:43:06.77	Cat 2-4th 378	356
13	13	Derek	Griggs	RECYCLED SPORTS	0:43:37.72	Cat 3-8th 402	366
14	14	Josh	Merchant	JRA CYCLES	0:43:53.42	Cat 3-9th 393	377
15	15	David	Stearns	Fritz's Bicycle Shop	0:44:27.99	Cat 4-1st 413	387
16	16	Eric	Lovering	CHAINLINE CYCLES	0:44:35.90	Cat 4-2nd 422	397
17	17	Roni	Vetter	MAD ALCHEMY \| ZANCONATO	0:44:45.30	Cat 2-5th 390	407
18	18	Colin	Johannen	BIKEMAN.COM	0:45:16.04	Cat 3-10th 454	417
19	19	Seann	Moriarty		0:45:49.53	Cat ?-1st 526	428
20	20	Johnny	Morin	JOE'S GARAGE	0:45:51.82	Cat 3-11th 411	438
21	21	Nolan	Sutherland	HAPPY SAVAGES	0:45:54.10	Cat 4-3rd 474	448
22	22	Chip	Baker	HUP UNITED	0:46:47.69	Cat 3-12th 462	458
23	23	Grant	Halsey	TEAM MONSTER TRUCK	0:46:55.16	Cat 3-13th 450	469
24	24	Rebekah	Weiner	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	0:47:07.02	Cat 3-14th 449	479
25	25	John	Witmer	GMBC/Synergy Fitness	-1 LAP	Cat 3-15th 477	489
26	26	David	Lafond	GUS CX	-1 LAP	Cat 4-4th 516	499
27	27	Kurt	Johnson	RIVERSIDE RACING	-1 LAP	Cat 3-16th 520	509
28	28	Allison	Halsey	TEAM MONSTER TRUCK	-1 LAP	Cat 3-17th 538	520
29	29	Bill	Millett	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	-1 LAP	Cat 4-5th 587	530
30	30	Luc	Lafond	STATE 9 RACING P/B VITTORIA	-1 LAP	Cat 4-6th 553	540
31	31	Jessica	Howland	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP	-1 LAP	Cat 4-7th 605	550
32	32	Tali	Kurlantzick	PLAID LANTERN RACING	-1 LAP	Cat 4-8th 512	561
33	33	Lesli	Cohen	MAD ALCHEMY \| ZANCONATO	-1 LAP	Cat 4-9th 577	571
34	34	Ben	Lawson	YELLOW RAINBOW KITTENS	-1 LAP	Cat ?-2nd 589	581

Finishers: Cat 1: 1 Cat 2: 5 Cat 3: 17 Cat 4: 9 Cat ?: 2

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Women 4/5

VT State Champs Elite

Tim Russell

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VT State Champs U23

1	Andrew Borden	X-MEN	57:22.2
2	Sammy Hedlund	UVM CYCLING	59:46.2
3	Donnie Seib	UVM CYCLING	00:13.6

By Age: All | U20 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50-59 | 60+ | Custom

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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Charlotte	Fagan	THE HUSTLE HIVE P/B SOMERVELO	0:43:57.57	Cat 4-1st 484	433
2	2	Katie	Aman	MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE	0:44:17.67	Cat 4-2nd 515	448
3	3	Anne marie	Prewitt		0:44:45.14	Cat ?-1st 504	464
4	4	Emily	Curry	JOE'S GARAGE	0:45:17.37	Cat 4-3rd 508	479
5	5	Elizabeth	Bouchard-hall	BMB RACING	0:45:31.96	Cat 4-4th 540	495
6	6	Laura	Campbell	MOXIE RACING BY TREK	0:46:18.31	Cat 4-5th 543	510
7	7	Mira	Fowler	JAM FUND/NORTHAMPTON CYCLING CLUB	0:46:25.07	Cat 4-6th 572	526
8	8	Maggie	Payne	NYCROSS	0:47:13.36	Cat 4-7th 532	541
9	9	Monte	Ho	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING		Cat 5-1st 599	557
10	10	Sarah	Schoenfeldt	The Hustle Hive p/b Somervelo		Cat 5-2nd 554	572
11	11	Sara	Spencer	UVM CYCLING		Cat 5-3rd 612	587
12	12	Anna	Breton	ST. LAWRENCE UNIVERSITY		Cat 5-4th 581	603
13	13	Sophia	Konanc	MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE		Cat ?-2nd 634	618
14	14	Nicole	Walch	UVM CYCLING		Cat ?-3rd 587	634
15	15	Rebecca	Kibbee			Cat 5-5th 625	649
16	16	Sarah	Morrow	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING		Cat ?-4th 673	665
17	17	Leah	Evans wong	FRITZ'S BICYCLE SHOP		Cat ?-5th 600	680
18	18	Kathy	Timpane	BCA/LINEN		Cat 4-8th 630	696
19	19	Mollie	Webster			Cat ?-6th 679	711
20	20	Phoebe	Lee			Cat 5-6th 684	727
21	21	Jen	Heil			Cat 5-7th 692	742

Finishers: Cat 4: 8 Cat 5: 7 Cat ?: 6

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Women Open

VT State Champs Masters

1	Joanne Grogan	BMB RACING	41:57.0
2	Kim Coleman	BMB RACING	43:03.0
3	Jennifer Daniels	HAMMER NUTRITION	45:35.3

VT State Champs U23

1	Meghan Owens	UVM CYCLING	41:49.8
2	Greta Kilburn	LITTLE BELLAS	42:37.7
3	Paige Williams	FUJI CROSS CREW	43:37.3

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Pl	Ovr	First Name	Last Name	Team	Time	Carried Points	Scored Points
1	1	Kate	Northcott	WEST HILL SHOP	0:39:32.82	Cat 2-1st 378	378
2	2	Kathleen	Wanat	BIKES+LIFE	0:40:39.55	Cat 2-2nd 450	401
3	3	Elizabeth	Lukowski	MAD ALCHEMY/ZANCONATO	0:41:32.35	Cat 2-3rd 488	411
4	4	Meghan	Owens	UVM CYCLING	0:41:49.85	Cat 2-4th 463	422
5	5	Joanne	Grogan	BMB RACING	0:41:57.03	Cat 2-5th 464	432
6	6	Rebecca	Pagano	BIKEWAY SOURCE/BELL LAP RACING	0:42:36.53	Cat 1-1st 413	443
7	7	Greta	Kilburn	LITTLE BELLAS	0:42:37.72	Cat 4-1st 524	453
8	8	Kim	Coleman	BMB RACING	0:43:03.05	Cat 3-1st 478	464
9	9	Hallie	Blunck		0:43:36.91	Cat 3-2nd 500	474
10	10	Paige	Williams	FUJI CROSS CREW	0:43:37.34	Cat 2-6th 479	485
11	11	Elizabeth	Huuki	ARMY WEST POINT CYCLING	0:43:47.94	Cat 3-3rd 510	495
12	12	Liza	Bell	PUTNEY THUNDERBOLTS	0:43:57.81	Cat 3-4th 556	506
13	13	Sharon	Benedict	MINUTEMAN ROAD CLUB	0:44:33.32	Cat 4-2nd 495	516
14	14	Lauren	Powers	RIVERSIDE RACING	0:44:54.22	Cat 4-3rd 534	527
15	15	Nathalie	Poirier	VELO RESOURCE	0:45:10.52	Cat 3-5th 520	537
16	16	Jennifer	Daniels	HAMMER NUTRITION	0:45:35.30	Cat 3-6th 487	548
17	17	Keli	Marshall	VELOLABRT	0:45:35.04	Cat ?-1st 448	558
18	18	Allison	Halsey	TEAM MONSTER TRUCK	0:46:14.90	Cat 3-7th 538	568
19	19	Lina	Dzekciorius	TOKYO JOES	0:46:32.27	Cat 3-8th 557	579
20	20	K	Kurowski	COMPETITIVE EDGE	0:47:41.26	Cat ?-2nd 500	589
21	21	Lizzie	Wright	RHODE ISLAND SCHOOL OF DESIGN	-1 LAP	Cat 4-4th 636	600

Finishers: Cat 1: 1 Cat 2: 6 Cat 3: 8 Cat 4: 4 Cat ?: 2

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Points breakdown
Michael Wissell	266.94	Quality:	243.58
Fred Prescott	322.61	Median:	421.54
Keith Beausoleil	277.44	Last:	599.5
Bradford Smith	283.11	Drop per place:	10.47
Connor Walsh	299.13
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Charlotte Fagan	483.86	Quality:	432.76
Katie Aman	515.28	Median:	587.46
Anne marie Prewitt	503.98	Last:	742.16
Emily Curry	508.13	Drop per place:	15.47
Elizabeth Bouchard-hall	539.93
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Points breakdown
Kate Northcott	378.03	Quality:	390.11
Kathleen Wanat	450.32	Median:	495.05
Elizabeth Lukowski	487.68	Last:	599.98
Meghan Owens	462.85	Drop per place:	10.49
Joanne Grogan	463.7
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